Q&A with Gábor Gyura, Head of Sustainable Finance at Central Bank of Hungary

Gábor Gyura, Head of Sustainable Finance at Central Bank of Hungary, is a member of several international committees and working groups in the field of green finance. He has a master’s degree in Economics and also holds a PhD in Earth Science

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MEDIA 7: Could you please tell us a little bit about yourself and your professional career?
GÁBOR GYURA:
  I was trained as an economist and started working with financial markets in the Summer of 2008, just when the subprime mortgage crisis was about to turn into a largescale financial crisis. I spent most of my career at the Central Bank of Hungary working in the financial stability and the financial supervision area. Sadly enough, it was never a boring and “eventless” period in Hungary and more broadly in Europe, but one can at least learn a lot under pressure. Since 2015, I’ve been increasingly involved in sustainability. Starting with my PhD studies (in which my research topic was green bonds) I became deeply interested in the financial aspects of climate change and other environmental anomalies – a topic which jumped on the agenda of central banks in the recent few years as well. Since 2019 I lead the Central Bank of Hungary’s Sustainable Finance Department. So one could say that my career path has led me from the mortgage crisis to the climate crisis in a bit more than 10 years.


M7:  What are some of the green finance related analytical, policy-making activities, for the development of ESG risk management and environmentally sustainable finance systems you overlook at the Central Bank of Hungary?
GG:
Indeed, our goal in Hungary is to develop risk management in relation to environmental anomalies (such as climate change) and also that the financial system as a whole supports more sustainability. For both goals there is a great deal to do in Hungary, just like in all countries around the globe. We launched a comprehensive strategy, a so called Green Program in early 2019 with many initiatives. What are the ways we are trying to make progress? First of all, in terms of analytical work, we need to develop the metrics to assess and track environmental related financial risks. For this, one needs to define new data requirements and reporting frameworks, along with developing new models. To mention one example, we are working on a climate stress test, which will inform us about the extent our financial system is resilient against climate related physical and transition risks.

Policy-making is equally important as analytical work. As a financial regulator, we try to make sure that prudential rules adequately address the risks and also that the right incentives are in place so that finance is increasingly provided to sustainable economic activities. Let me mention two examples also here. We recently issued a so called Green Recommendation to banks, which requires them – among other things - to enhance their corporate governance to incorporate internally climate issues to every relevant process. Another important policy initiative is our Green Lending incentive scheme, which comes with a more favorable regulatory treatment for green loans, compared to other loans. This encourages banks to provide more financing to - for instance - renewable energy projects. We do all this in a very international context, reflecting very well the global nature of our financial systems and those of environmental challenges. Sustainable finance policy is being developed with great speed in the EU and also globally, so we participate in a lot of international working groups where we work together and share experience and ideas.


The COVID-19 crisis did not bring the growth of sustainable finance to a halt, and the topic could stay high on the agenda of policymakers as well.



M7: Could you please tell us more about education & research activities within MNB's Green Programme?
GG:
Obviously, both analytical and policymaking tasks are intellectually challenging, as environmental anomalies are so new and partly still undiscovered for financial institutions and financial regulators likewise. This underscores the importance of research and education, a third element of our activities. Therefore, we cooperate with universities and training companies to raise awareness and develop capacities both internally and externally in sustainable finance, and we are also doing a lot of research. One example for research is to analyse whether green assets perform better than “brown” (i.e. loans financing polluting activities) ones. Those who are interested in or further activities can get a more comprehensive overview on our green microsite: www.greenfinance.hu


M7: What do you believe are the challenges in the industry post COVID-19 era?
GG:
While unfortunately it is still too early to draw final conclusions about COVID-19, but perhaps we can say that despite being a huge negative shock to all economies and societies. The COVID-19 crisis did not bring the growth of sustainable finance to a halt, and the topic could stay high on the agenda of policymakers as well. This is very important, since when the time of lockdowns came it was far from obvious that the topic can keep its importance. With climate we often speak about target dates like 2030 or 2050, and more immediate challenges can always draw away our attention.


Sustainable finance policy is being developed with great speed in the EU and also globally, so we participate in a lot of international working groups where we work together and share experience and ideas.



M7: How would you advice our readers towards practicing sustainable finance?
GG:
Your readers might represent a broad scale of industries, but the key is that in any industry, environmental performance can be improved, and any company can – and actually should – become more sustainable. To ensure that, firms of course need to make new investments, like purchasing new equipment, changing processes or increase the use of green energy sources. The rise of sustainable finance, the growing supply of green loans or the growing demand for green bonds is hopefully creating a favourable funding environment for such investments. So I would recommend all firms to identify ways how to become more sustainable, and discuss funding options with the financial service providers.

ABOUT CENTRAL BANK OF HUNGARY

The primary objective of the central bank of Hungary is to achieve and maintain price stability. Without prejudice to its primary objective, the Central Bank supports the economic policy of the Government. The Central Bank of Hungary launched its Green Program early 2019 to mitigate the risks associated with climate change and other environmental problems, to expand green financial services in Hungary, to widen the related knowledge base in Hungary and abroad, and to reduce financial market participants’ and its own ecological footprint. The Central bank of Hungary is a member of the Network for Greening the Financial System (NGFS).

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